With the support of a three-year grant from the John Templeton Foundation, the SAPIENS Public Scholars Training Fellowship program guides anthropologists on accessible writing and podcasting for broad nonacademic audiences. The purpose of this fellowship program is to provide in-depth training for anthropologists in the craft of science communication and public scholarship—to transform their research into stories that engage the public and spur readers and listeners to rethink themselves and their world.
Applications for the fellowship program will be accepted each summer to select a yearly cohort of 10 fellows. Each year will present a particular theme, drawing primarily from the research areas around cultural evolution: the Wisdom of World Cultures (2022–2023), the Impacts of Technology (2023–2024), and Global Challenges, Cultural Opportunities (2024–2025).
Each fellow will be selected for the academic year (September 1–May 31). Sessions will be held in two-hour periods on Wednesdays (timing subject to change depending on cohort time zones) during this period. They will be expected to: (1) enthusiastically participate in regular Zoom meetings and trainings with their cohort; (2) pitch, develop, and publish at least one article for SAPIENS; (3) pitch, develop, and publish at least one article for another popular magazine; and (4) contribute to one SAPIENS podcast episode in collaboration with our production partner, House of Pod. Missing more than two meetings will result in an evaluation to determine whether the fellow can continue in the program.
As part of this program, fellows will attend an exclusive quarterly keynote lecture by four renowned science writers and editors: Carl Zimmer, The New York Times; Kate Wong, Scientific American; Samir Patel, Atlas Obscura; and Amanda Mascarelli, The Conversation.
We are especially interested in bringing historically marginalized voices—such as by race, ethnicity, gender identity, class, geography, or ability—to the center of public conversations.
Benefits of the fellowship include deepening skills in popular writing and podcasting, individual mentoring with SAPIENS staff and partners, an expanded professional network, public recognition for one’s research, and a US$2,500 award upon the fellowship’s completion.
The Wisdom of World Cultures (2022–2023)
Every human society around the world has developed cultural mechanisms to navigate their world and create meaning. Many cultural beliefs and practices have the potential not only to explain the past, but to guide the present and future. For this theme, we are most interested in anthropological projects that seek to understand how culture can guide knowledge of human truths and help people make just judgments. Such projects might consider the origins of language, the emergence of religion, the birth and death of traditions, redressing the harms of historic violence, or multispecies relationships. These projects will search for lessons from human cultures that can inspire reflection about our collective condition of being human—past, present, and future.
The Impacts of Technology (2023–2024)
For millions of years, the construction of technologies has impacted nonhuman animals and the human lineage. Today being human is entwined with making, using, and valuing material objects. Being human also means applying knowledge to change and manipulate the environments we live in. Objects enable and shape evolutionary forces, are the spark and expression of imagination, guide and structure social relations, transform and destroy the environment, and much more. For this theme, we are looking for anthropological projects that, for example, address the impacts of technology on human evolution, social organization, language and communication, historical trajectories, or the natural world. These projects will tackle big questions about technology’s ultimate purpose, limits, and possibilities.
Global Challenges, Cultural Opportunities (2024–2025)
Culture is a force that drives social interactions, beliefs, imagination, relationships, politics, communication, emotions, ethics, identities, memories, wars, the creation of art, and so much more in human and animal life. Culture makes us who we are and is the source of so much human value: beauty, faith, morality. Yet springing from the same source are adaptations that cause much harm: pride, greed, violence. In the layered crises facing our world—increasing inequalities, enduring bigotries, ecological collapse—we must work harder than ever before to recognize the reasons for our faults and apply the possibilities of human creativity. For this theme, we are most interested in projects that highlight how anthropology is uniquely positioned to share stories of cultural adaptation and transformation. As practitioners in a field that is inherently interdisciplinary—one that bridges culture and biology, and takes both a long-term and contemporary view of humanity—anthropologists can tackle topics from migration to climate change, from political sovereignties to religious traditions. These projects will provide key disciplinary frameworks for where humans have come from and use that knowledge to anticipate our collective destinations.
Katherine L. Chiou is an anthropological archaeologist and paleoethnobotanist whose research interests include foodways in the past and present, Andean archaeology, household archaeology, plant domestication, food sovereignty, agrobiodiversity, sustainability, GIS and data visualization, and responsible conduct of research.
Smiti Nathan is an archaeologist who studies resource decision-making (for example, in relation to plants, minerals, metals) in ancient Oman and ancient Ethiopia. Follow her on Twitter @travellingarch and on Instagram @travellingarchaeologist.
Koffi Nomedji works on questions related to climate change, policymaking, and development in Africa.
Brendane A. Tynes (she/her) is a queer Black feminist scholar, cultural anthropologist, and storyteller whose research interests include Black feminist anthropology, Black feminist critical theory, gendered violence, Black political movements, and memory and affect studies. Follow her on Twitter @brendanetynes.
Sebastián Vacas-Oleas is a social anthropologist who works with the Shuar people of Western Amazonia.
Karminn C.D. Daytec Yañgot, a Kankana-ey, is an anthropologist and a development worker whose work focuses on human rights and structural violence, Indigenous peoples and Indigeneity, collective flourishing, political representation, and policy development. Follow her on Instagram @indigena.ph.
Onur Arslan is a Ph.D. candidate in anthropology at the University of California, Davis, working at the intersections of science and technology studies, visual anthropology, law, and social studies on expertise. He graduated from Istanbul University with a B.A. in political science and international relations, and from Bilgi University with an M.A. in philosophy and social thought. For his Ph.D. research, he is investigating how digital technologies reshape the production of legal knowledges in terrorism trials. Through focusing on Turkish counterterrorism, he examines cultural, political, and technoscientific implications of evidence-making practices. His field research is supported by the National Science Foundation, Social Science Research Council, and American Research Institute in Turkey. As a SAPIENS fellow, he will work on the increasing use of digital entities and computational platforms in spheres of law. Follow him on Twitter at@OnurArslannnnnn.
Cindy Hsin-yee Huang (she/her) is a Paleolithic archaeologist with a focus on stone tools and cultural evolution. She is a Ph.D. candidate at the School of Human Evolution and Social Change and affiliated with the Institute of Human Origins at Arizona State University. Her dissertation, supported by the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada, studies the emergence and dispersal of microliths, or small stone tools, across Eurasia during the late Pleistocene. This research attempts to understand large-scale patterns of innovation and cultural diffusion during the ancient past and how those impacted, facilitated, and reflected human evolution, migration, and social interactions. Cindy will be writing and podcasting about these topics and themes as a SAPIENS fellow. Follow her on Twitter at @CHYHuang.
Leyla Jafarova is a Ph.D. candidate in sociocultural anthropology at Boston University. Her doctoral research focuses on the emergence and development of a humanitarian logic of care for the unidentified dead in post-war Azerbaijan and the production of knowledge in this regard. Leyla also explores how families of missing persons in post-war Azerbaijan construct their personal truths and navigate their experiences of loss and healing. She is examining how their alternative truths often exist alongside and are sidelined by dominant humanitarian regimes of truth that exclusively rely on forensic scientific evidence. This research has been supported through a Wenner-Gren Dissertation Fieldwork Grant and by a Graduate Research Abroad Fellowship through Boston University. As a SAPIENS fellow, she will focus on unintended consequences of the prioritization of forensic technologies within humanitarian work in post-war contexts. Follow her on Twitter at @auntyologist.
Timothy Y. Loh is an anthropologist of science and technology, and a Ph.D. candidate in history, anthropology, and science, technology, and society (HASTS) at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in the United States. His ethnographic research focuses on sociality, language, and religion in deaf and signing worlds spanning Jordan, Singapore, and the U.S. His dissertation examines how deaf Jordanians are engaging with “assistive” technologies that have emerged in Amman in recent decades, including cochlear implants and sign language–centered mobile applications. He holds a B.S. in foreign service, an M.A. in Arab studies (both from Georgetown University), and an S.M. in HASTS from MIT. Before beginning his doctorate, he worked in humanitarian assistance and secondary education in Jordan and Lebanon. As a SAPIENS fellow, he hopes to translate insights he has gained from his academic research into public scholarship. Follow him on Twitter @tim_loh.
Sana Malik Noon is a cultural anthropologist who studies women’s political agency in urban Pakistan. She is a Ph.D. candidate at Emory University. Her research has been funded by the Wenner-Gren Foundation and the Social Science Research Council. Sana’s dissertation draws on the anthropology of rights and social movements, social generations studies, and feminist ethnography to explore how activists and ordinary women engage in movements for social justice and rights in urban Pakistan. As a SAPIENS fellow, she will draw on fieldwork in Lahore with activists and political actors to explore generational transformations in how urban women negotiate their rights and political identities in the fraught political landscape of Pakistan. Follow her on Twitter at @sanafmalikk.
Alberto Navarro is a Ph.D. candidate in anthropology at Stanford University. Broadly, his research uses an interdisciplinary approach to examine the relationship between tool use and different aspects of human consciousness, behavior, and well-being. Following in the anthropological tradition of making the familiar strange, his dissertation explores ways in which smartphone use in the United States is transforming many of the most basic structures of human existence and experience. His work as an anthropologist began early when he started to take extensive field notes to better understand his social interactions and environment as an autistic child. Follow him on Twitter @Sciborg_Tech.
Mariana Petry Cabral is an archaeologist whose research interests focus on Indigenous archaeologies, collaborative practices, and knowledge production. For her fellowship at SAPIENS, she will write and podcast to challenge common understandings of technology, drawing from her experience in a collaborative project with the Wajãpi Indigenous people in the Brazilian Amazon. She is a professor of archaeology at the Universidade Federal de Minas Gerais in Brazil and is currently a visiting scholar at the Joukowsky Institute for Archaeology and the Ancient World at Brown University (CAPES/PrInt fellowship). Follow her on Instagram @marianapetrycabral.
Parag Jyoti Saikia is studying the construction of a hydropower dam in India to understand how infrastructures in-the-making shape everyday life, the environment, and geopolitics. He is a Ph.D. candidate in anthropology at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. His research is supported by the Wenner-Gren Foundation’s Dissertation Fieldwork Grant and the Social Science Research Council’s International Dissertation Research Fellowship. For nearly a decade, Parag has been associated with grassroots organizations working on dams, rivers, and the environment, and been writing about these issues both in English and Assamese, his mother tongue. Follow him on Instagram and Twitter @LaheLaheCulture.
María Pía Tavella is an assistant professor in human evolution and a Ph.D. candidate in anthropology at the National University of Córdoba in Argentina. María Pía’s dissertation sheds light on pre-Hispanic population dynamics in central Argentina through the study of ancient DNA. She works for the National Scientific and Technological Research Council of Argentina in science communication and outreach. As a SAPIENS fellow, she will focus on the intersections of genomic technologies and the processes of individual and collective identity construction in Latin America. Follow her on Twitter @PiuTavella.
The application portal will open May 15 and the deadline for applicants will be July 15 annually, 2022–2024, with the fellowship beginning the September immediately following. So you can plan your schedule, know that it takes us two weeks to complete the review process and arrive at a final decision on the cohort of fellows.
Applicants must be pursuing a research area that addresses the year’s theme and cannot defer an offer of a fellowship to a subsequent year. Successful applicants can only receive the fellowship one time; however, unsuccessful applicants may apply for the next cycle.
Applicants must be ABD Ph.D. students who have completed dissertation research and are currently enrolled in an anthropology degree program, have a Ph.D. in anthropology, and/or have an appointment in an anthropology department. Preference will be given to early career scholars. Qualified applicants of any nationality or institutional affiliation may apply. We also welcome applicants who hold or in the process of applying for Wenner Gren Foundation grants.
Selection will be based on four criteria:
To present your proposal in the best possible light, closely follow all the procedures for completing your application. If you have any questions, contact us at editor•sapiens.org or (212) 683-5000.
The application asks the following:
Please do not send any other materials beyond what the application requests. Do not send transcripts, letters of recommendation, manuscripts, publications, photographs, or recordings. We will not use this material in the review process, and we cannot return it to you.
Applicants must create a Submittable account and submit through the portal when it next opens in the spring 2024.
>> CHIP: Hello welcome. We’ll wait one more moment to let folks filter in. Welcome to the SAPIENS public scholars training program Q and A let’s go ahead and get started then. My name is chip and I’m an anthropologist and editor chip of SAPIENS. I’ve been at the magazine now for 7, 8 years helping to found it. I’m based out of Denver Colorado which I like to recognize as the traditional homelands of nearly 50 tribes.
Let me pause for a moment to let Eshe introduce herself.
>> ESHE: Hi everyone thank you for being here hyperan cultural anthropologist and a Latin Americanist. I’ve been at the magazine now for three years. So it’s been quite the journey here, but I’m very happy to be with you all today to talk about the next cohort of our program.
>> CHIP: Thank you. So the plan is for me to give a bit of aven overview and context for the program and how it emerged and some of the goals with it and then Esha will provide more details around the application process and what to expect as part of the program. So this program is being offered and is made possible through a grant by the John Templeton Foundation which has created this program.
That involves establishing a cohort for anthropologist for training a series of workshops and enables us to have this platform. So we have some goals set out. In three years we hope to public 30 SAPIENS articles have 30 articles pitched to external venues.
30 documentary style podcast episode. A number of keynote lengtures as well as having a permanent free online training module and training. We hope that will be available next year in 2024 we’ll have that out and available.
This is all being hosted by SAPIENS which is a magazine and editorial Wenner-Gren foundation.
So through the grant, it’s really meeting a — at the cross roads at the John Templeton Foundation called cultural evolutions of the future of humanity. We are offering three different themes each year as part of this program. This last year was The Wisdom of World Cultures. This year we’re looking at the impact of technology and this year will be global challenge.
And we want to be a part of helping to cultivate invasion of anthropologist and scholars. And then lastly we want to continue to elevate SAPIENS as a platform for anthropologist to share their research with diverse global publics. This program aims to highlight research that ex-employers cultures of emerging capacity for for change. We want to emphasize the work of anthropologist that take on questions of culture and cultural trance formation.
What we’re looking for is a range of different kinds of research. Whether it could be under the sub discipline of archaeology and we’re trying to understand how we can approach culture to help publics understand how culture itself is formed trans mitt and had changed. We recognize that is a loaded term for some anthropologist but we are embracing this new form of cultural evolution as a means to understand how culture itself is a powerful force in human evolution and human change.
So we are looking for ideally really big questions that can be answered through anthropology whether it’s the origin of religion health and disease and so on. We also see this program as really confronting head on the paucity of opportunities for anthropologist to learn about how to be a public anthropologist and there’s all kinds of studies and research that show that many anthropologist more broadly are seeking opportunities to engage publics to learn how to write for publics how to spe.
Speak for different publics and this is become ago part of what it means to be a 21st century scholar. And at the same time there aren’t a will the of opportunities to get training in this work. SAPIENS wants to be not only a platform for public anthropology but help in the training of it. And this is an amazing moment.
Many of you notice that this is a golden age.
We have been published since 2016. We have published more than a thousand articles about anthropology we are reached our publication more than 20 million readers and we continue to publish about 150 articles a year. At the same time we have also had a podcast that we’ve been running for about five years now and that reaches about 10,000 listeners per episode.
And continues to grow as well.
A key part of this program is seeking to elevate under represent voices in the field. There has been much published about the lack of unrepresentation and more broadly in the sciences and humanities. We took by this project an article queue who wrote about the lack of opportunities and the structural inequalities in anthropology and cultural evolution studies in particular. And he identified a roadmap that we are seeking to follow.
Which includes increasing awareness providing support making more opportunities and providing more role models in a visible way.
So with that I’m going to let Esha say a few words.
>> ESHE: Thanks Chip. So I’m going to talk about the scholars training fellowship. The fellowship is going to run — well it has been runing since the summer of 2022 and we’re going to go until 2025 so there will be three do horts in total. And it runs September 1 to May 31st. I know depending on where you are in the world there’s that distinction but for us we’re talking about anyone who study it is four groups of anthropological science.
We’re training anthropologist in science communication and public scholarship sp we want to help the fellows to learn how they can translate their research into story that can be really engage for broad public audiences. They also have the opportunity to also expand their professional networks by talking to other people in their cohort. We also have our staff, the podcasting staff.
And then also we try to give them the opportunity to gain public rear ch. And creating podcast episodes as part of the sapiens podcast as well. And then upon completion everyone who participates in the program receives a 2500 dollars award through the magazine.
So there are a few components to the program. We expect our participants to publish at least one article through the magazine and then we help them to publish at least one other article through another magazine. And one SAPIENS podcast episode. Offer workshops they’ll also work with other staff members on things like our art.
Our approach to art in social media and they’ll receive mentor ship to help them how to pitch and develop articles based ton rear ch they have already conducted.
And then the other side of that is podcasting so similarly there are other workshop that is fellows participate in so they can learn podcasting skills and transfer their research into an audio platform.
We also have quarterly keynote speakers who come into speak with the fellows at different points of the year these sessions are a great opportunity. We have Karl Zimmer who is currently at the New York times Kate Wong.
And to ask anything from how to get into editing to how to, you know, create a creative story how to think or switch gears from academic writing to science writing. So it’s a great opportunity to get some more incite.
In terms of eligible, we are accepting applicants who are at the ABD points at their program. And it’s honestly more official for our fellows to have completed they can have research that they can base their articles and podcasts on. You need to be ABD students at least. And or have an appointment in anthropology department. We are prioritizing early career scholars so who are at the post field work stage or, press three ten year. Those are the people who need the most help to figure out h
We are looking for people whose work with fit into the corresponding theme. And there is no restriction based on nationality or institutional an affiliation. Nationality or where you are in the world does not matter.
As I mentioned the theme this year is the impact of technology. I can read this out. I think it might be a little confusing for you. But essentially we are looking for people who are asking those big questions about The Impacts of Technology on humanity. So whether that’s human evolution. Historical trajectories. We are looking for people who are engaging with the role of technology and the human experience in the past present or future.
What will we be looking for in terms of criteria.
The quality of your research. We are looking for convergence about research with the yearly theme. So it’s important that you can show us how what you’re working on ties into this theme of the impact of technology in this case. Third we are looking for your potential as a scholar. It’s important how the questions we’re asking are important.
As far as academic conversations are going how it relates in that sphere and also what the implications are important to the rest of the world.
And then fourth we’re looking for how your background and your perspective and experience will also enrich the diversity at SAPIENS we want to learn how we can collaborate with others as well.
And that committee will be composed of a Wenner-Gren reps chip, myself one of the SAPIENS editors and then we also have an external member who will also participate in that process. Deadlines for this year and always really is July 15 so you have now until then I’ll poll that into the chat you do need to create a submitable account ask you can access the application.
If you are selected you will be alerted about two weeks after July 15 and you need be able to begin the program in September. We do not allow anyone to defer their acceptance however you can apply for the following year if you do not get in or if you are accepted but cannot, so long that you can show that your research aligns with that final theme for the third year.
So thank you again for showing up here as I said I will add the links into the chat but we really wanted to leave time for questions or comments from you who we know hope to see applying for this program. So I’m going keep my eye on the chat here and see how we can answer your questions. So we do, chip, unless ask you something else to say we can jump into questions.
>> CHIP: That would be great.
>> ESHE: So we have a question from Kara. Hello are eligible to apply for the scholarship.
>> CHIP: Yes as long as you can show a clear engagement with anthropological as the music it’s a field that spans a number of fields and can have a number of approaches. So in short we would be looking for who are lined with anthropology with other sub disciplines or other disciplines so as long as those questions are made clear in application, I think we would welcome an application from that area.
>> ESHE: Okay. So we have another question. I received a PhD in a school of public health would I be ineligible since my post-Doc is not in anthropology I would say yes provided what you would be proposing to work on would that be anthropological research as Chip said, again, we do have a certain amount of flexibility in terms of how you’re coming to this or where you are at this point in your career, but because we are an anthropology magazine.
And we really are focussing on teaching people how to write anthropology for a public audiences most important that you are able to lean on that work that you have done. So if you are able to do that, then it doesn’t matter that your post-Doc is not in anthropology.
Questions rolling in. Thank you for holding this session I was wondering how often the cohort meets.
So this past cohort has met on Wednesdays as the you know person who is in charge of the scheduling I try to find a date and time that would work for everyone. It is going to depend every year, likely it will be once a week. That worked very well for us last year but it’s going to depend on the cohort themselves and what their availability is.
This first cohort people were coming in from or Zooming in from the Philippines we had people based outside of the country. People traveling around. So what I try to do is find a time that will work for everyone. So once a week usually for the fellowship but it may not be Wednesday.
>> CHIP: Would you also say there is a bit of flow to that. So it is most Wednesdays but not maybe every Wednesday depending on what we’re working on.
>> ESHE: Yes that is quite true there are some times we will say this is a week where you can work on your writing especially towards the end of this case I want to make it for clear every cohort will probably vary from what we learned from the cohort before it but generally trying to give people a bit of breathing room so they can work on their writing or podcasting. Sometimes around conference season we may say from the triple As we may decide not to hold a session.
Just to make sure that everyone can be present and it’s as productive as possible. This is a fellowship that does take a lot of time. You need to decide whether that will allow you to do that. Podcasting and writing will take a lot of time and energy so it is important to consider that this is a fellowship that you will be expected to participate in the workshops and stick to the deadline that is we’re putting forth to make sure that you can meet the goal that is we’re seth inform setting .
In the determined time.
I’m a cross cultural development cross species comparative and I’m leading a cultural evolution group. Is this too far field or worth an application?
>> CHIP: I would say again, I think as long as the work is intersecting with anthropologist and anthropology then we would welcome the application to consider it. We recognize especially cultural evolution is hyper inner disciplinary. To be clear the magazine during a period had a fairly strict definition as an anthropology but we’ve seen how the field really in a good way is embracing inner disciplinary approaches we’ve loosened that a fair bit. So it’s up to the applican.
If they’re not clearly within anthropology. And so I think especially with this question if you’re working in the area of cultural evolution, I think making that really clear in the application and saying, you know, how you see your work intersecting with anthropology would make you competitive for this round.
>> ESHE: We have our next question from HannA is this different from the two years SAPIENS. This is a fellowship.
That is for fellows who will be working in the magazine. So those are two different processes and you will know that because when you go to application site it’s pretty clear that these are two different positions. So the — yes the two years SAPIENS public fellowship is currently closed.
Is this years theme elaborated beyond the paragraph that you showed us in this webinar? Not really is the short answer. We have these over arching themes, but I think we have found that it is most helpful to leave these definitions as broad as possible.
That does put the emphasis on the applicant to determine how their work fits into that theme and we do that on purpose because if we were to narrow it we might miss out on fabulous examples of what technology is. There is a lot of discussion about what technology even is. What it is and how we interact with it. I think it would be the same with thinking about global culture. If we were to make too narrow definition of that.
It would probably be to our detriment. So no the theme as it stands as it stands is the theme. If you feel your work fits into this years description we would encourage you to explain the relationship there.
Oh okay so this is a question.
Are we able to apply for this year fellowship and the two year fellowship post Doc.
>> CHIP: Yes in short. Those program really are quite distinct so there would not be any limitation for an applicant to seek out both opportunities.
Right now as Eshe mentioned the two year doctoral fellowship is closed. So there wouldn’t be any confusion.
>> ESHE: We have a follow-up question. Does my research already have to have a technology I would like to expand that through this opportunity would this be appropriate. I would say yes. Again, I think something that probably distinguishes public writing from academic writing we encourage the follows and authors in general. Even if this is one part of your research provided it is substantial enough to elaborate what is it that you’re saying, and flush that out.
Into an episode. Flush that out into public writing, then that is fine. We do not want you to write a dissertation for SAPIENS. It would be too long and against going into sort of what we’re trying to do which is really 0 into an example of what you’re speaking about. Provide that had your research — provided that whatever fraction of your research does apply to technology, so long as you can focus on that and explain to us how that is relevant, your articles and to do your postcast on the
Then I think that is fine.
We have our last question. I’m sorry if I missed this the duration of this program is ten months is the duration of this program ten months? It’s nine. September to May. We do take a bit of time off to observe the SAPIENS publishing holiday over what would be winter break. But yes essentially we start first week of September so it looks pretty similar to a high school year maybe not a university year.
Okay next question. Would you be able to email us the recording of this call? So what we have done last year and what we will do again is add this recording up on to the SAPIENS website. So it will be available for anyone to watch it at any point in time. What is there if you go to our page right now is the recording from last year. If you wait a day or two, we will have this recording up. You can watch it from the beginning and start and stop as you see fit.
Okay we are in a question lull. Are there any other questions? Maybe wait a little.
>> CHIP: Well if it looks like that might be it. Maybe we’ll go ahead and close the conversation here. But please do consider us a resource so feel free to reach out to Eshe if I can say that.
Feel free to reach out to me if you have a question that you think I might be positioned to answer. We do hope to see lots of applications. We how you see this as a great opportunity. Please do check out the website there.
The web page where we have a lot of this information out. We hope to see your application in July.
>> ESHE: Yes thank you everyone for attending and as I said, if you wait about a day or two you’ll be able to see this recording it’s at the bottom of the SAPIENS fellowship page. Thanks again.